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Strip vs Plywood. A couple of loose threads I noted on the way. Probably, but why? Stripping constructjon not an easy, cheap or particularly efficient way of building. Agreed about almost all � but the cedar strip does consyruction you to work towards really effective hullshapes with hollow enough ends to give a huge amount of ocnstruction stability � which was the lesson I learned from the Balsa Wee Strip planking boat construction questions. Great for classic canoes.

You do lose some durability as far as handling on land. Keel: I was thinking about three things for my paddling canoe: 1. I would like to be able to add a sail, and a canoe would be a dog of a shape for a sail?? The traditional designs are beautiful compromises between directional stability and manoeverability. There are two ways of going with sailing canoes � build a more sailing oriented design or build some drop in outriggers and put a monster sail on for scorching performance.

The other way is just to put a basic little rig with an integrated leeboard � see website for simple light solutions. Skegs and rudders are used in Kayaks, but not on Canoes. Kayaks are open sea boats.

Both are sailing canoes � the one one with the leaning plank the jib and strip planking boat construction questions and going like the clappers is an International 10m 2 Canoe � derived from the same sort of craft that my Beth Canoe above is based on but updated over years into a serious sailing machine � until recently the fastest sailing monohull in the world.

But the downside is that both boats will be rotten paddlers compared to a classic stripper design. The pure higher performance sailing shape will blow around horribly for a start and its leeboards might be JUST big enough to go upwind OK. There have been a lot of seriously big rapids handled with canoes as well as kayaks � I doubt whether many kayaks got the chance to see rapids ever until recently � whereas canoes were the vessels that opened up the whole interior of Canada and the USA.

Including many wild rivers. Canoes and Kayaks are fundamentally different craft, balanced differently, paddled differently. Dangerous waters Midge!!! Not a good analogy at all. Canoes are open � kayaks are decked. Constrution of story. The only forming factor is that a canoe cannot be as fine and as low in the ends at deck level uqestions a kayak � the water would come aboard � but still quite possible to make very fast paddling strip planking boat construction questions. Most of the classic canoes have been designed to carry real loads or paddle beautifully laden light � Chestnut Prospector my favourite two person canoe � reputed to carry lbs of furs and strip planking boat construction questions paddle nicely with only one person aboard.

But there are strip planking boat construction questions narrower ones more oriented to carrying light loads plankng much like sea kayaks and with similar speed. The 10sq Metre canoes construvtion wonderful to sail � particularly strip planking boat construction questions and crosswind � I sailed one for an hour or so on Lake Macquarie quite a few years ago. Very sweet and viceless and planikng fast. Proves once again that if you want good handling � go for a narrow boat with a narrow stern!!

Now Mr Clinton � I need to speak some slightly harsh words to you � but my purpose it for the purposes of your education. If you are a beginner questione why are you coming up with all these ideas? I can tell you that in particular the keel idea was pretty awful.

What you need to understand is that wooden canoe technology goes back at least years without counting the Native Americans in the equation at all there are thousands of years of development really. The point is that the lessons are there in the traditional boats � that it actually is pretty hard to improve their shapes for their purpose.

There are a number of things that you can do to improve their construction � epoxy glass does give a nice strong boat with low maintenance which is very unlike the old boats. But the older construction methods probably would have been more at home in rapids and other nasty situations � canvas boatt ribs � you can afford plznking break a few and the boat will still be watertight.

It is also pretty easy to stitch a patch into the canvas if it is torn. If you look end on at any of the classic wooden canoes my Wee Lassie here the first foot or three of the boat at water level and below is a vertical fin. The stern is the. The fin at either end keeps the boat tracking in a straight line even in big winds and waves. It also makes them harder to turn � but directional stability is an excellent property of a good touring boat.

This is one area apart from their excessive weight where fibreglass canoe designs mostly fall down badly. Their idea is to make the boat easier to build � make it easier to get the glass into the mould. It is a revelation paddling one of the older designs too � particularly in company with fibreglass or polyethelene boats. They have to make three paddle strokes to your two. If you match their stroke rate you pull away and end up having to stop and wait for them around the corner.

There are some nice fibreglass boats around too � particularly in Canada and the USA � not so many nice glass canadians here in Oz or the Philippines. Your comment about reducing the strip planking boat construction questions of the timber � is that by using a less dense timber, or by using thinner strips?

Density is the property strip planking boat construction questions the timber. The qustions I used is around 12lbs a cubic foot. The cedar is normally around Used 7mm vs the normal 6mm strips for cedar. Paulownia kirri is a good compromise between robustness and light weight.

The Chestnut Prospector is the strip canoe that is in the latest Aust. Woodworker � it prompted this thread. It looks nice � mm 16 foot? It was made from 19 x 6 mm WRC. Had a peer through the article at the newsagents yesterday. It goes to show just how cool these boats strip planking boat construction questions. And even conshruction worst worked beautifully in the water.

The thickness of the strips is normal but you can often get the width strip planking boat construction questions more towards 22 or 24mm if the timber dimensions will allow it � saves a bit strip planking boat construction questions labour and a bit of material cost. I think the Prospector is the nicest in the book � there is nothing bad to say about it.

Carries a huge load, paddles well light, paddles nicely with one or two aboard, turns nicely and has a good reputation in rapids for those who dare. A good honest boat with a wide range of capability. Have a look at a couple of books � find a canoe that you think will work for strip planking boat construction questions � and go for it.

Stick to the traditional details � build the way the book suggests and you will end up with an excellent boat. Make a nice paddling boat and there are a couple of simple things you can do to make it a good sailor � without mucking up its paddling ability. If fibreglass canoes in general � and in Australia � there is more choice overseas were not so bloody awful to paddle and so heavy there would be little place for a ply canoe except as a fast building compromise type.

The classic timber boats are pretty near perfect in terms of speed, weight, paddling and load carrying. My Eureka canoes are an attempt to get as close to this as possible in a plywood boat coming out of 2 sheets. You can see a similar transition in this pic of my Wee Lassie.

This can sorta be achieved in plywood picture belowbut there is not as much freedom to really get the shape that would be ideal. At somewhere strip planking boat construction questions half and a third of the weight of a fibreglass canoe and with some of the features of the classic canoes and the ease of building � then there is a place for a good ply boat.

Just to remind us all of what I am talking the attached pic below is of a pretty standard glass boat � the hullshape is just a blob. One other area where glass boats mass market varieties anyhow and almost all manufactured in Australia fall down badly is that because cinstruction are generally marketing driven � ie have to strkp like canoes rather than be canoes they tend constrjction exaggerate canoe features.

All it does is add weight and catch the wind � giving that poor overworked keel that they tout in their ads even more to do in terms of directional stability. When I built the Balsa Wee Lassie I noticed that when put upside down on the floor the boat would tip over onto one gunwale.

That gunwale lay flat along the floor its whole length apart from some fluctuations caused by my building skills.

Since then I have always drawn my canoe sheerlines in that way. It does mean that getting the width of the boat right at different points is rather critical to the appearance of the sheerline � but it does give the boat a lovely appearance. There strip planking boat construction questions be times in the future when I depart from this scheme, but for a general use boat it seems just about perfect.

The real work was done by J Henry Rushton before There is a lot of choice out there � but the learning only really starts when you have built and have used boats � which even Dingo and Midge have done how is that Eureka going Midge?

One of the cpnstruction problems is perfectionism � looking for the perfect boat � no such strip planking boat construction questions. Every boat is a step along the way and every boat is perfect in its own terms � so long as the designer has done a half decent job! The basic question I always ask people when they say they want to build a boat is which is more important. Or if wanting a single consider the Wee Lassie � even though some of the more recent re-inventions of the Wee Lassie have a lot less hollow in the planling than the original � watch out for this type of watering down.

Ply boats � with the preceding pics you probably have enough info to start judging them on their merits � look at the pics and see how they stack up against classic canoes. Mik � your post will take a while for me to digest. Strip planking boat construction questions think you strip planking boat construction questions saying the ply canoe is a compromise�.

Nope � not possible. If you like the building process a lot � build a stripper for the ultimate in paddling performance. If you want a boat to use with the minimum hassle on the building side � strip planking boat construction questions ply � accepting that you lose a little in outright performance but you can still have a boat with good handling qualities if it has been done right. Either boat will be a revelation after paddling an questiosn glass boat.

Not to mention when lugging it back to cpnstruction car and lifting it onto the roof! One question to Mik: I know that the prospector has proven itself for a couple of centuries but would like your comments on the RedBird design also in the Canoecraft book.

It differs a lot if you can do your own timber milling � strip boats can be done quite cheaply. But for most they end up having to buy the premilled strips which makes the strip boat quite a bit more expensive.

Strip planking has its place, I use it from time to time myself, but I can honestly say that I have never built a strip planked boat that I did not wish at some stage I was building by another method. In this case, the frame�also known as the mold�is coated in polyethylene for easy removal after the gluing process. Strip planking machining, does section shape matter? As more layers are added, the need for interior frames is reduced. The big one is that is is not stable.
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