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The Boating Forum. Thread Tools. Senior Member. Likes: Received 18 Likes on 17 Posts. I have been on the water several times during a storm when Lightning hit the water close to the boat. Just wondering what happens when your in an aluminum boat? View Public Profile. Send a private aluminum boats and lightning zeros to fishcop.

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Anthony from Long Island wrote us today: "Is lightening more attracted to an alloy boat versus a fiberglass boat? First of all let me premise my answer by saying that you are never, ever safe in a lightning storm.

You should do everything in your power to avoid being in a lightning storm - including not going out if storms are predicted and running in when the sky turns that ominous dark suggesting a storm is on aluminum boats and lightning zeros way. Secondly, I know a lot boatts lightning - Aluminum boats and lightning zeros was, as ans young man, a meteorologist aluminum boats and lightning zeros the Marine Corps.

I know the science behind lightning as well as the danger of it. Beyond my own knowledge I have checked with various experts on the subject including the National Weather Service and a professional yacht lightning consultant as the answer to this question is very important to be correct.

Finally, the answer is that you are lighning in an alloy boat than in a glass boat. Assuming that you are talking apples to apples bboats that both boats are the same height above sea level there is nothing about aluminum that is more "Attractive" than glass. Air is a great insulator and thus both glass and alloy provide the same shortcut that the lightning is seeking to ground.

Once lightning has found your boat the metal boat provides a very good conductor for the lightning's current to go to ground whereas the fiberglass boat does not. The strike on a glass boat may well run through the boats electrical system which, unfortunately, runs back towards the operator you!

Additionally, if you are in one of our boats with either a Hardtop, T-top or Walkaround cabin you are even safer. Lightning consultants encourage you to create a halo of metal or wires around the people on a boat as when the strike hits the current will follow the aluminum boats and lightning zeros halo away from the operator and crew You!

All of our superstructures are welded to the boat and thus provide excellent conductivity to ground. Finally, let me reiterate - alumihum are NOT safe on a metal boat aluminum boats and lightning zeros a lightning storm nor are you safe in a glass boat in a lightning storm. Relatively speaking, though, you are safer in a metal hull than a glass one. Anthony, I hope that I have answered your question.

Please email again, should you have further questions or need clarification. Received 75 Boxts on 56 Posts. I was struck by lightning in my aluminum pilothouse. Lightnlng a private message to Chaps.

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What if I am swimming and lightnign strikes the water ' from me If so then why do fish and ducks never get fried. Always wondered that, hopefully this thread will attract somebody that knows an answer. Edit - obviously I would never go swimming during a storm, but just let me know if I ever find myself swimming in a lightning storm. Send a private message to yachtjim.

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Fiberglass ,aluminum ,wood or you it dosn't matter. If you are worried about lightning go to church. Send a private message to grassguysc.

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It does, however, create complications with respect to the potential for galvanic corrosion on a boat. Saving electronics: First of all, stowing handheld electronics or any disconnected electronics in your oven will protect them during a strike. Just remember to take them out again before using the oven!

See the sources below for more details. Your personal safety: This should be most important, right? It would seem the most prudent tactic is severely reduce sail, or take it all down, pop the boat on autopilot, and get below well in advance of and after a thunderstorm. Lightning and Sailboats : Academic paper published by Ewen M. Thomson, currently recognized as the most well-informed go-to guy on this subject. Marine Lightning Protection : Website for a business run by Ewen Thomson see above , who is a pioneer in modern cage-style boat-grounding techniques.

Lightning Survey Results : Discussion re results of a small independent online lightning-strike survey conducted by a cruiser who owns a power-cat named Domino. Very informative. Considerations for Lightning Protection : Conclusions reached post-survey by the owner of Domino , referenced above. Lessons in Lightning : Ocean Navigator article by a cruiser in an aluminum boat who was struck by lightning in the Baltic.

Of particular interest to those like myself who own aluminum boats. There are lots of other resources out there, but these four links are a very good place to start.

We were hit by lightning in a fast moving front off Newfoundland many years ago before gps. All the electronics were fried! The binnacle must have been demagnetized as it hopelessly spun in circles, giving us only a hand sighting compass to steer by.

The smell of burned wire insulation in boat was overpowering. Luckily this is a rare occurrence and for the most part just bad luck! Robert: Interesting. In Bermuda once I met a tall ship, steel hull, that had been struck by lightning, and as a result the whole ship was magnetized.

Which also kept their compasses from working properly. They were on their way to Norfolk, Virginia, to get degaussed. If you consider that the sky has a positive electrical charge and the sea a negative charge, grounding the boat and the mast gives them a negative charge. Hence as far as the lightning is concerned, the bonded mast raised the local sea level to mast top height.

Lightning will tend to bridge the narrowest gap with the greatest electrical charge difference � so by grounding boat and mast, you have made them MORE vulnerable to lightning strikes, not less. Tying an earth system into the keel bolts is not likely to result in loss of the keel, but it sure does constitute trying your best to do so. In a big strike, lightning will try to follow a straight path and the energy contained in such a strike is often too great for a simple system to be effective.

And it needs to be understood that either method makes the strike a whole lot more likely to occur. A grounded mast does offer a degree of protection to a non-bonded electrical system in the boat underneath. This is the standard system used in telecommunications. The best protection you can have is to park your ungrounded wooden boat with a wooden mast and an electrical system isolated from the sea, right next to a grounded metal boat with a big aluminium mast.

Bryan Tuffnell while part of what you say is true that a grounded boat is more likely to be struck the catch is that it will do less damage if struck where as a boat not grounded is less likely to be struck if it ever is you will have significantly more damage.

Maybe, but quite likely not. The only way to offer lightning protection is to place a grounded lightning target above the mast, but electrically isolated from the mast and every other part of the boat. The grounding is completely independent of the mast, rigging, interior, electrical system, and above waterline areas of the hull. The idea is that this attracts the lightning and provides a low impedance path to ground, without drawing the charge into any part of the boat or its contents.

Using this strategy one does not ground the mast, hull, rigging, etc. This is the only strategy to apply if one insists on lightning protection. Its the other way round. When polarity builds up the negative charge is at the cloud base, and the positive at the sea surface. If you had drank more beer you would've figured it out!

Not talking about it wacking the boat, just a water strike. Call it, 50 yards and on out. I've road out some pretty rough storms in a fiberglass boat, but in a cove and buttoned down so I couldn't say if the water got hit or not. Joined Mar 28, Messages Well, maybe an induced charge, but you should be fine. If it had an aluminum cabin that'd be the safest place you could be inside a metal box. Joined Apr 24, Messages Expidia Commander. Joined Aug 26, Messages 2, Philster Captain.

Joined Sep 15, Messages 3, Philster said:. What you have been told is wrong. You can smell the burned ozone that certain electrical smell in the air, but you will be safe unless it hits you, the boat, the engine or an appurtenance. Lightening doesn't hit the highest point all the time, but it's better to be low and in an safe enclosure.

A boat cover does not count. Might feel good to be under it, but lightening pretty much doesn't acknowledge its existence. I lost a friend at 15 years of age to a lighting strike when he was seated next the the outboard engine on a fiberglass boat.

Everyone confirmed that the engine took the hit -- Hardly the highest point. Home Cookin' Fleet Admiral. Joined May 26, Messages 9, Lightning electricity also moves through damp stuff so your wet bimini may bring in more lightning than an antenna. I heard that most lightning strikes hit 7 miles from the storm--in other words, bolts are hitting all around it, not directly under the dark cloud.

That's why you move out at first sign. Here is a good article on the effects of lightning. Actually and aluminum boat is good because it dissipates the energy into the water.

You don't want to be sitting there holding onto metal though. I would think if you had a bimini top, if it was up it probably might create what the call a Faraday cage effect where the frame might offer a quicker path through the boat to the water. If I hear lightning forecast I pick another day or head in the opposite direction for another lake yet boaters in places like Fl which is the lightning capital are out there all the time.

If they did not go out with a forecast of lightning they would never be able to go boating. Still, I've been on boats in Fl trying to out run the storms which you can see coming miles off on the open ocean, but once you finally get to the shore and head down the canals the Manatee warning signs say 5 mph. Fl is not my idea of good times for boating unless the boat is big enough to have a mast that transmits the lightning strike down a wire into a big plate mounted to the boat under the water line that channels the hit into the water.

Still can do a lot of damage to your electronics. CATransplant Admiral. Joined Feb 26, Messages 6, If you can see the lightning or hear the thunder and the storm is heading your way, it's time to head for the dock. Fishing and boating are wonderful, but hardly worth dying for. If there's a storm coming, get off the water. It's that simple. Think about how long it will take you to get to the dock or ramp.

Leave before it's too late. CATransplant said:. However, often not practical. Especially on the stretch of River I run. For Murphy's sake, I run upstream from my launch point. With the topography here you often do not get much warning, and to "run for the dock" most times you would be running into the storm. Same difference. Likewise, being a pre-retirement person, if I wait for the "perfect day" I would be lucky to get out 5 days a season.

That just leaves dealing with the risk as best you can. Bondo Moderator Staff member.

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