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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. DMichels Registered User. Jul 25, 59 0 0 Phohatcong NJ. I have been repairing and collecting for about 10 years. I enjoy seeing a watch makers repair mark inside the case. It is neat when you can make out an old date. I have always wondered if I should add a mark after a service of repair.
Any ideas or thoughts on this? THanks Dave. NC Plumber Registered User. Jan 15, 22 18 Country. If you are doing warranty work and theres already marks there, then yes.
I won't mark a case if it doesn't have any. Dec 26, 43 Country. While existing marks add historical value, it's a bit of an archaic can I say that word here? I certainly would not add marks to my own watches and if you're servicing a watch for someone else, I think the vast majority would be pretty upset to have an heirloom or valuable antique marked up.
Kent Gibbs Literary Award. Aug 26, 18, 1, Country. The watchmaker who works on my watches asks if I want service marks added or not. I usually go along with it because he's a close friend. Each person has to decide: If it is a NOS watch, it should be a no-brainer, but then, why are you having it serviced? If a watch was passed down through several generations in a family, and if it was always taken to the same jewelery shop in town which stayed in business through those same generations for service, you'd probably want them to continue putting their marks in it.
The answer as to whether to have it marked or not, for any given person, is somewhere between the latter two examples. These Ferguson dials were third-party material - added after the watch left the factory. What's the difference if the dial was put on the movement a hundred years before you buy the watch, or a hundred minutes before you see the watch in the mart. Here's another example; Dr. George F.
He first started putting his service marks in watches in about and was still doing it in late If two identical watches were sold in Calgary in and one was brought to Dr. Ritchie for service in and then sat in a drawer thereafter, and the second watch suffered a broken staff in and then just sat in a drawer until ; if you brought that second watch to Dr. Ritchie in for service, would it make a difference when compared to the first watch if he put his mark in it?
Last edited: Jan 29, Dec 22, 1, Houston Country Region. Today there are better ways keeping repair records. And, cases that have survived and no longer being produced should be kept as well preserved as possible. I was going to state 'as original as possible' but that might include repair marks to some. I treat pocket watches a little differently than when they were every day working instruments tools.
There are no replacements once they have been worn to the brass, scrached, torn and beat up. I prefer to treat them as museum pieces regardless of their condition and do not want to be responsible for leaving them in a worse state than I received them. I would rather improve on them if possible and don't believe that marking on the inside of the case does that.
Squite Registered User. I can see the merits of both sides of this argument, but would like to add that it could be considered improving the documented history of the watch to have it marked. If preserving the provenance is considered as important as preserving the working order of the piece, I think a mark is in order. Digital records are not a fail-safe storage medium, even with backups, and generations from now they may not even have a technology available to them to read those records.
Maybe people in the past felt the same way about a piece and chose not to have it marked when they owned it. Then your seemingly 'untouched' museum piece really wasn't left untouched after all, but rather, was just left undocumented. MartyR Registered User.
Dec 16, 11, 83 UK Country. Squite said:. Who's saying no one would know? The owner would know, and the repair man would know. They could document the repair in other ways I suppose, if that suits them. I'm not saying digital records of the repair shouldn't be kept. I'm saying that they shouldn't be relied on solely. If those records are lost, the entire history is then lost. Otherwise, you might as well collect ceramic ponies. Dec 7, 2, 30 48 sydney Australia Country Region.
I always put a repair mark in a watch or clock, I learned to write very small so it is not a problem placing a discreet mark in a case back, records get lost, computers crash but the mark will always be there, on occasions a watch will come in that has my mark in it that I did some 43 years ago, the shop I worked for then is long gone and the records no longer exist, but I know I did a full a full service on that watch in I also got to know the service marks of other repairers in the area so I knew where the watch had been, one guy was quite an artful bodger and I used to shudder when I saw one of his marks in the back, never knew what I was going to find.
Given that changing a pocket watch case was a common practice when they were in regular use, the record in most watches would likely be pretty spotty. It seems to me that the primary value when pocket watches were worn as everyday tools was to have a record of recent maintenance that followed the watch. Given that today it's primarily enthusiasts who use and keep pocket watches, most of whom do their own repairs, making marks in the case is of little benefit.
For professionals, providing an option is acceptable, but I believe that these days, marking a case without permission is tantamount to vandalism. Digital records therefore fulfill the role of maintaining recent maintenance records, and are certainly capable of containing vastly more detail about the nature of the repair than a potentially illegible series of scratches.
As MartyR pointed out, a scratch in the case is just that: a scratch. Yes, the marks may show that the watch that was in the case in some distant era no guarantee that it's the same watch in many cases had some kind of maintenance done to it, but it usually tells little else most of the marks that I've seen are essentially illegible.
This is particularly true for collectors in far-flung parts of the world Jul 15, 3, 83 Kentucky Country Region. If one insists on a repair mark, Wooden Watch Repair Near Me Crank I think a fine-point sharpie is a much better choice as it does not damage the case and is completely reversible. Neuron Registered User. How about marks on the movement where they can't be seen unless the watch is disassembled?
Aug 18, 5, Country. I'd prefer that no modern era marks be scratched on the cases or movements of watches that I am interested in. Sep 21, 6, 1, 71 Decatur, TN. Country Region. Neuron said:. Aug 24, 83, 1, 84 Boston awco. There are exceptions to every rule.
Two of my favorite watches have such marks on the plates. Tom McIntyre said:. Hi, How about this one? Regards, Graham. Graham, I think yours is exactly the same as graffiti that you see on many famous monuments scratched into the brickwork, or on the wooden beams of Harrow School and so on.
There is a fine line here between vandalism and historical context. It's interesting that the sole reason you believe your scratching may be "historical" is that it was done years ago. But if the date had been say or even I doubt that you would have posted it. If so, that would suggest that you and 10 generations of your descendants would have to wait for a repairer's mark to be "historical".
The discussion has been interetsing. The comments of some repairers make it clear that the reason they like to put their marks on cases is a kind of ego trip, a search for immortality. They want to know that they have literally left their mark on the world. Ben just made the point that the scratched name of a famous person would definitiely be of historical value, and that's obviously right.
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